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« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2009, 10:44:10 PM »
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Not connected just used to trigger the strobes with the meter in noncord mode.
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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2009, 12:06:59 AM »
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cool, will give it a try then.

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« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2009, 10:54:03 AM »
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I've just received my BXRi 500 "to go" kit (2x 500Ws flash heads, 2x softboxes, 2x stands, Skyport transmitter, cables etc.) and briefly tried it out.

My initial reaction is mostly positive. This goes especially for the Skyport which not only triggers the flash wirelessly but also allows you to adjust its intensity. Very practical if the flash head has been placed in an akward position where its controls aren't easily reachable.
On the negative site the system seems a little "cheap" in its build quality. Don't get me wrong; it's not bad quality, but as Frank pointed out earlier it may not be as suitable for "heavy" use and rough handling as more expensive units. In comparison with the Visatec Logos 1600 which we use at school which have metal enclosures it seems flimsy, light and cheap. But then again the Visatec costs way more but still doesn't allow for wireless control of flash intensity. The Visatec is also bulkier and heavier, which means it'll be heavier to travel around with (my Elinchrom kit comes with two seemingly heavy-duty, padded carrying bags -one for the two stands, one for the rest and isn't too heavy to travel with).

The stands are of the plastic clamp-locking type. I've heard of people complaining about this kind of mechanism for camera tripods, and I would imagine stands from Manfrotto or whatever would last longer, but at a higher cost of course.
I personally have a plastic clamped tripod (Slik) which I've had for several years without a problem, so maybe this isn't something I need worry about.
The two 66x66cm softboxes are OK although they also seem a little "cheap", but then again I'm no expert in judging as I don't have much to compare with except the stuff at school where they have mostly bigger softboxes, which of course are heavier and more sturdy. So I assume my comparison would be unfair.
But then again I would guess that the supplied softboxes are of the cheaper, simpler kinds Elinchrom produces, and that separately bought more expensive ones might have a diffferent feel to them. I don't know.

These are only my very first impressions, so don't take this as a review or anything. I'm also very biased, comparing everything to the Visatec which is the only studio-flash unit I've used. So I really need a few days/weeks of use to get used to it.
All in all I think Frank's review (which is one of the reasons I settled for this kit) is right on the spot, and I've gotten myself an affordable, high-quality and versatile studio flash system which I can put to good use. As I'm the only person who will be using it, I handle things with care and won't be shooting 4 hours continously etc. I believe I've made a good choice in comparison with other equally priced units (I haven't found other brands/models in the same price range which offer wireless control, and some don't even have proportional control of the modeling lamp).

As my needs grow I will probably expand my setup with more light modifiers (softboxes, umbrellas, barn-doors etc.), but so far I don't really know what I need, so I'll put that off until later. I'm sure it's too easy to buy those kind of things like a kid goes into a candy store wanting this and that  Wink

Talking about light-modifiers I have one question: everywhere the 500 BXRi is pictured (e.g. Elinchrom's website) the flash head is shown with a reflector (see image below). But none came with my setup. I didn't find any "this is what you should get" list in the user-manuals either, so I don't really know 100% what should be included. Did anyone else here buying the "to go" BXRi kits get two reflectors as well, or do I have to buy this extra? If the latter, I see that Elinchrom supplies several types -which one would be most versatile for general use?


 
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Re: Elinchrom BX 500
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2009, 01:12:30 PM »
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Hi,
Don't be fooled by the case material, some plastics nowadays are more sturdy than metal cases.
See the RX series, they are all plastic but I used them in the blistering sun in california several hours in a workshop and they did not fail once.

Normally there is indeed no reflector with the normal heads, in the kit I believe there are.
I would order the larger reflector with a grid kit, they are sold as kit over here, that's a great option, the small reflectors are hardly used by me.
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« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2009, 01:43:15 PM »
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Hmmmm... hopefully it's missing so I don't need to spend extra money.

A lot of those light modifiers are pretty expensive. But I found the following Elinchrom reflector kit to be affordable:
18cm/60 degrees reflector and 30 degree grid

A little more expensive is the "standard reflector" Elinchrom kit consisting of:
21cm/50 degree reflector with two grids (20 degrees and 30 degrees).
I prefer buying stuff that has multiple uses instead of a lot of different things which can only be used for one thing. Is the latter a better choice?
I really need to find an FAQ or something which explains all the different light modifiers before I spend more cash on this. Anything like that available online?
 
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« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2009, 07:49:20 PM »
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Hello Frank, I briefly mentioned on Dutch Heaven that my BXri 500 was overheating in normal use. I've decided to send it back and have it checked out. Could be the fan is not working properly. It's certainly not as quiet as the RX in any case.
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« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2009, 11:42:43 PM »
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About the missing reflectors I talked about earlier...
I contacted the store where I had bought them and they confirmed that the kit didn't/shouldn't include them   Sad
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« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2009, 07:55:20 AM »
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@Ericke,
When on full power the fan is louder than the RX but during normal operation it's about equal I guess.

@Vision,
The standard reflector is very cheap, but I would rather opt for a bigger one with grids.
It's normal for loose heads not to include a reflector.
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« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2009, 08:21:13 AM »
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These weren't loose heads, but a kit.
Which reflector would you suggest I get? They have them with several different angles, and I suppose a "general purpose" one would be more useful than a specialized type?
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« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2009, 08:41:41 AM »
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as a kit I think the reflectors should be delivered but this varies per dealer I guess, they can make their own kits.
I know fotoflits has at least one kit that delivers the units with reflectors.
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« Reply #70 on: April 09, 2010, 02:58:23 PM »
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Hi Frank,

Maybe I overlooked it but what is the shutter speed you used on the jumping picture?
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« Reply #71 on: April 09, 2010, 09:41:46 PM »
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1/125 as with all studio shots normally.
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« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2010, 09:50:39 AM »
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Quick question Frank: Is this one of those battery powered models? If so how long does it last before needing to be plugged back in?
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« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2010, 04:05:30 PM »
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BX500ri is a studio head, so not battery powered.
Those are the RANGER RX and QUADRA RX.

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« Reply #74 on: July 27, 2010, 11:33:36 PM »
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hello frank!!

     Can you tell me why the BX's and/or the Rangers and/or Elinchrom in general has a shorter flash duration when on full power?   Is this specific for elinchrom?  Im sure most other makers operate with a shorter flash duration on lower power. 
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